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Merge with Miawpukek First Nation

I would suggest that Miawpukek First Nation be merged into this article because both articles are currently stubs. Neither stands well on its own in the current format. Furthermore, Miawpukek currently redirects to Conne River, Newfoundland and Labrador.

Neelix (talk) 17:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A merge seems appropriate to me too. Strobilus (talk) 20:16, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually under {{NorthAmNative}} guidelines, the Miawpukek First Nation government article should be separate from the place. The name of the reserve is Samiajij Miawpukek (see here) and that can redirect here, with a section about it. Is there anything else in Conne River/Miawpukek than the reserve, by the way? i.e. is there a non-native part of the comunity of Conne River? i.e. teh reserve is only part of the place?? If so it's important that the reserve is a section within the article, and theoretically could be its own. but the government, for categorization and certain content reasons, should be separate, ideally....Skookum1 (talk) 00:17, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Children's choir not going to Olympics

Normally news items don't go on encyclopedia pages unless they're notable enough to withstand history...I'm not sure this does but the jury's out yet. More cites would be needed, e.g. from Newfoundland papers, in order to include it, I think....Skookum1 (talk) 00:17, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Reverted edit about income

An editor has been adding the following text to this article: "In 1991 Miawpukek was one of the poorest communities in Atlantic Canada. Due in part to increased education of its members, it has gone on to become the most well-off First Nation in Atlantic Canada after Membertou." Their edit has been reverted a few times because they failed to provide adequate details about the source used to support the edit. The editor then provided two sources within this edit summary, which read "Please refer to 1991 CWB Database and 2011 CWB Database http://www.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/eng/1100100016579/1100100016580". On that web link, are links to a "Community Well-Being Index", published by the Government of Canada. The data used to support this edit can be found here: 1991 data and 2011 data.

First, Membertou First Nation is not listed on either CWB index, so a comparison to that community cannot be done using this data. There is also no mention of "Atlantic Canada".

As for the data on Miawpukek First Nation, it is as follows:

In 1991, the community had a population of 505, an income score of 63, an education score of 27, a housing score of 68, a labour force activity score of 70, and a "community well-being" score of 56.
In 2011, the community had a population of 920, an income score of 68, an education score of 51, a housing score of 95, a labour force activity score of 79, and a "community well-being" score of 73.

Definitions regarding these scores can be found here.

I have again reverted the edit for several reasons. First, part of the edit is unsourced original research. The edit also draws conclusions from "scores" that are not well-defined, and are not suitable for unambiguous comparison. Finally, the edit is a synthesis. The input of others would be appreciated. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:40, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Magnolia677 Please take the time to read the cited material before deleting it. It is getting frustrating that you go around changing sites without reading the information first. Because something does not make sense to you, does not mean it is not properly cited.

There is no independent research being done. All information is compiled by the Government of Canada. This is THE report done to highlight well being of First Nations communities by the government of Canada.

Membertou is clearly visible in both reports under call number 1217008

From the 2011 report: Membertou 28B 912 11.30% 63 63 90 75 73 First Nations Communities

HistoryCanadiana (talk) 16:20, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@HistoryCanadiana: The numbers you quoted above make no sense. Please be specific about how these numbers support your edit, and address my comment above. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:24, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well-being is not only about income. Community Well Being Index measures a number of figures to find the overall well being of a community. Why do I need to educate you? Please learn about the topic and come back. HistoryCanadiana (talk) 19:15, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Information is available at cite. Please do not engage in an edit war. EastCoastHistory (talk) 19:17, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@HistoryCanadiana:@EastCoastHistory: The edit being reverted is not supported by the source cited. Please take a moment to read WP:BURDEN, which supports the removal of this edit. Because this edit has been challenged, you must provide "a reliable, published source using an inline citation". The three previous sources cited did not support this edit, and HistoryCanadiana has since removed the links to those previous sources. If the edit it true, please find a source to support it. Continuing to revert my edit, without addressing my very specific concerns above, is not appropriate. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:21, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My apology, with your help I have located Membertou in the sources mentioned above, though the edit still is not adequately supported. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:51, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]